In this edition, we caught up with Shige from Circles/Simworks on what they've been up to on their visit so far, the Japan/California spiritual connection, and what they've got in their plans leading up to MADE.

We bumped our manufacturing/design episode to the next one, so if you still have questions/suggestions for that topic, it's not too late to send them in!

Check it out on Youtube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.